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Reality Check on the Boogyman of the Zero-Oil Senerio
Reality Check on the Boogyman of the Zero-Oil Senerio
I listen to your major co-conservative radio talk show hosts and they go on and on about Green Energy & Oil. Rush goes on that Green Energy and Sustainability is a fairytale & Hanity sees oil drilling as the answer to all of our job troubles. I do understand that they seek to separate themselves from the force the green down our throats policies of our current administration ... but please remember, the Marxists are not the only evil we need you on gaurd from, keep an eye on big oil too.
Neil - I would love for you to bring on credible experts to lay down the reality.
Dave in Dayton
Posted by AAB at 10:44 a.m. February 03, 2012
"all of the socalled "green" energy technologies are at the same stage today that electricity and the telephone were at a century ago."
OK, one more time:
I am 43 years in the electrical power transmission and distribution industry. State this so you know that I am not just another pretty face, I know a few things.
In order to have the quality and quantity of electrical energy that we have all gotten use to, you have to spin a turbane at 3,600rpm 24/7. A slacking off or speeding up of that turbane and the energy is usless.
A dependable supply of water falling, natural gas or coal burning, or nuke rods heating water will do that.
Burning our garbage, depending on wind or solar will never give us the amount of energy we demand. These technologies are not at the same stage that the electrical industry was 100 years ago. Electrical engineers were not stupid 100 years ago, wind and solar did not work then, they will not work now. Of course unless everyone can go back to living like our Grandfathers did and even then, you couldn't see across the street for the pollution.
We are in a society that is built on one technology, and if we are to maintain it, the only way to keep going is Nuke power plants. We need to stop wishing and start building.
Posted by ConfoundedSociety at 01:41 p.m. February 03, 2012
I agree and disagree. You are right short term. However, solar power wil eventually be able to supply the whole planet. We're just 100 to 200 years away from that. Nuclear, coal and oil are the what we need now. They will give us the energy and resources to put into the search for alternative energy sources.
By the way, it's hard to believe your initial claim about working in the industry when you mis-spell turbine twice.
Posted by AAB at 12:33 p.m. February 26, 2012
I am an Electrical Engineer, not an english teacher.
If you want to dismiss my views because of a misspelled word,
you are in the same boat as all the rest that scream and
protest and do nothing.
Hang your hat on "green" energy but it will never serve
the society we have built (305 million and counting).
It all boils down to the simple rule that for every action
there is an equal reaction.
You want electrical power? It does not come free
electrical power is just converting one energy to another.
Wind and solar may (in 100 or 200 years) supply us with electric power
but that society will be a shadow of what we now have.
We are on track to be at 500 million in 80 years, wind and solar
can never support that large a population.
We can keep wishing for a "green" answer (algae according to Obama) and keep making fun of those of us who do know the answers. The road to ruin has always been paved with good intentions put forth by people who live on wishes.
Posted by ConfoundedSociety at 10:19 p.m. March 02, 2012
Anyone who had spent 43 years in the industry would have seen that word written thousands of times. The fact that you just admitted that you actually misspelled it and it wasn't just a typo proves you're a liar.
Orbital solar power collectors will easily provide all power needs for the entire planet, at US levels for everyone. The designs already exist. We just need to advance to where the technology exists to build them. Again, anyone in the industry for 43 years would know about the papers published based on this, which proves you're a liar.
Posted by AAB at 11:50 a.m. March 05, 2012
Orbital solar power collectors!
This stream has gotten crazy, put your tin hat back on
and keep posting. Trying to be logical with you is like
talking to a jackass, after awhile, you can not tell
which of you is the jackass.
You sound like part of the group that hounded a good man
out of politics because he misspelled potato.
Good bye--moving away from this site.
Posted by ConfoundedSociety at 02:47 p.m. March 08, 2012
It's no wonder you want to leave the site. I think you've embarrassed yourself enough.
http://www.solarpanelinfo.com/solarprojects/space-based-solar-power.php
http://www.nss.org/adastra/AdAstra-SBSP-2008.pdf
http://home.earthlink.net/~drdrapp/Space.solar.power.pdf
Posted by stuff99 at 11:11 a.m. April 23, 2012
you question anyone who claims personal experience.is that because you have none?
Posted by ConfoundedSociety at 02:39 p.m. April 23, 2012
I could claim to be an astronaut and say it's a fact that the government has evidence of extraterrestrials. What evidence? I claim to have personal experience and I said so. It's asinine.
Not only that, I proved he didn't know what he was talking about. He didn't even know how to spell turbine. If he were who he claimed to be, there wouldn't have been any problem. He also would have been able to back up his claims with more than just "cuz I said so."
Claiming personal experience is meaningless. Even if it's true, most people on blogs who claim to have personal experience are lying (you saw how easily I exposed AAB.) If you actually do know what you're talking about, you'd be able to back it up.
Posted by ConfoundedSociety at 12:37 p.m. January 19, 2012
Can't believe I missed this when it was posted. The "Big Oil" you are so afraid of are the corporations that are investing the most in green energy. If/when we have a practical application of any green energy technology, who do you think will be producing it? Do you think it will be a unicorn farm where they poop glitter that can be used as fuel?
Posted by rodeoclown at 12:21 p.m. February 20, 2012
The so called "GREEN MOVEMENT" has very little to do with saving the planet or global warming. It has to do with controlling the masses. I has to do with the re indoctrination of free peoples to move them from a free republic to Marxism. When I here someone talk about "BIG OIL" or Evil Corporations, I'm hearing class envy and wealth distribution, MARXISM!
Posted by AAB at 09:30 a.m. March 05, 2012
Here is what I do not understand.
The Chevy Volt is dead, after billions of taxpayer dollars.
My wifes 2009 VW Jetta TDI (diesel) gets 45 mpg on the highway
and 34 in the city. Loaded on vacation, two of us and luggage, we still got 39-42. The car does not smell like a diesel or make noise like a diesel. It is a great car.
I was told by the VW dealer that U.S. regulations will not allow the engine to be used in other cars. (perhaps someones knows more)
But, if we had the TDI in all small cars, we would be oil independent by the next day and even have a surplus. Why can't government see this?
I would welcome a discussion but we are keeping our VW and as seen from the new plant in Chattanooga, the engine can be built in the U.S.
Posted by PatDaly at 08:34 p.m. March 05, 2012
AAB, the sad thing is your Jetta could be FAR more efficient if it were not strangled with the Emissions equipment that the 2009 up TDIs are saddled with. Funny, we can have European diesels operating in far more congested areas without killing people, why not here? Cars routinely get 60-70 MPG over there, and yes, they won't pass our crash or Emissions, but WHY?
WHY can't we adopt sensible regulations?
Follow the money my man, follow the money.
Look at the BEAUTIFUL Honda Clean Diesel, in fact, look at the European spec. offerings from Chrysler and GM. That little 2.2 TDI from GM is a honey, you and I can't get it though. In Australia, it gets a US eqv. 67 MPG.
Yea, they are coming for the 2013 MY, but want to bet what they will get when choked down to remove the last .00000275 percent of emissions?
Posted by PatDaly at 12:23 p.m. May 03, 2012
REALLY?
You mean the Corporations that spend Millions trying to obtain unreasonable Emissions targets so they can sell the same product they currently produce for Europe?
Yep, your comment is entirely logical, NOT.
Posted by stuff99 at 10:27 p.m. May 03, 2012
Well here's a shred of cheery news. No lesser authority than Volkswagen believes that oil prices won't be going up significantly anytime soon. So it won't be selling this new VW Polo in the U.S. But that's not an irreversible decision. If gas prices go into orbit again, or indeed if Ford scores a big hit with the Fiesta, VW could federalize the Polo, build it in Mexico, and get it into U.S. dealers.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/hatchbacks/112_0905_2009_volkswagen_polo_drive/viewall.html#ixzz1t9bhmIBr
so if vw does this why not others?
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Posted by highlandoutlaw at 02:31 p.m. January 18, 2012
all of the socalled "green" energy technologies are at the same stage today that electricity and the telephone were at a century ago. In time they will be able to make a sizable contribution to weaning us off oil and coal, but right now they are all still in what amounts to a pilot or experimental stage. Right now we need to be addressing the inefficincies in our current power infrastructe and addressing them. Oil coal and natural gas can be utilized, utilized cleanly, and efficiently, if the EPA and the rest of obongo's thugs would let us